Vanessa(KOFXI)
Vanessa ヴァネッサ | |
Tiers & Ranking | |
Tier: | B |
Ratio Cost: | 4 Points |
Properties | |
Damage Modifier: | 110 |
Stun Modifier: | 99 |
Crouch height (Tier): | C |
Quick Guide
- Vanessa is very difficult, highly technical character that has extremely fast and unpredictable movement and unorthodox pressure strings.
- She is a great starter for shift combos since both 41236P and 236236P have massive hit stun, which can enable back-turned combos.
- She is usually played as a point character for her shift synergy and as a battery, or as a Leader for long corner juggles.
Neutral
Offense
Defense
Colors
R1 + | R1 + | R1 + | R1 + | ||||
A | B | C | D | E+A | E+B | E+C | E+D |
L1 + | L1 + | L1 + | L1 + |
Start+A | Start+B | Start+C | Start+D |
Frame Data
Note: Advantage data needs to be doublechecked, might be off 1F. Normals
Frame Data for 214P/236B Cancels
Input | BLK | HIT | Note |
---|---|---|---|
2D>236B | -2 | KD | Useful. |
2C>236B | -2 | -2 | 4C after triggers a throw OS. |
leichter Angriff>214P | minus | minus | should not be used. |
5C(C)>214P | +5 | +5 | |
5C(f)>214P | +7? | +7? | high pushback on hit, but works as kara cancel. |
2B>6A>214P | +5 | +5 | important for combos |
2C>214P | +5 | +5 | |
5D>214P | +5 | +5 | |
2D>214P | +5 | KD | good for Pressure |
5E>214P | +5 | KD | |
236B>6A>214P | +5 | KD | good for Pressure / Conversion |
Bugs
- Vanessa can be thrown out of her Guard Cancel Roll.
- Vanessa can be thrown with command throws while getting up from a slide knockdown.
- Vanessa can loop her 623C infinitely in the corner. The maximum allowed 623C inputs are 5 (= 4 loops) for tournaments and casual play.
Combos
- 2B,6A, 214A, link C(c)(2 hits), [4],6A, j.CD: bnb, this is also the default "command"-combo
- 2B,6A, 214A, link C(c)(2 hits), [4],6A, delay 2C, 214K-6C: Corner version of the BnB.
- 2B,6A,214A, link C(c)(2 hits), (...6A,...) 41236P~, Quick Shift Quick Shift Setup.
- out of Quick Shift j.B or j.C,\/,C(f),[4],6A, [j.CD] or [hyperhop j.D,\/ 214K-6C]: Combo out of Quick Shift.
- after 6C: Quick Shift again
- Corner 623Cx5, 2C,214K-6C, [link 236236P]: [0-1 Super] Punishment-Combo, eg. for stun.
- Corner combo in [4],6A, 5A whiff, 5A>214B>6C, link 236236P: [1 Super] Source
Leader Combos
- midscreen combo in C(2 hits),6A,236236E, C(far, 2 hits), [4],6A cancel 236B, delay 2A,214D-6E cancel 236B, 236236P, shift out
- midscreen combo in C(2 hits),6A,236236E, [4],6A-236B,2A-214D-6C-236B-2C-236B (Crossup)...
- midscreen to corner combo in C(2 hits),6A,236236E, [4],6A, hyperhop delay j.D, land, 214B-6C cancel 236B-6C (1 hit) cancel 214B-6C cancel 623C....
- Corner Combo in [4],6A, 2A(whiff),2C,236236E, 214B-6C cancel 214D-6C cancel 236B, link 2C,214D-6C cancel 214B-6C cancel 623C, 623C x N, 2C,214B-6C, link 236236P, shift out
- Combo in 236236P, Dream Cancel 2. Hit in 236236E, C(far),[4],6A, link hyperhop j.D,\/,214B-6C cancel 236B-C cancel erster Hit 214B-6C cancel 623C, 623C x 5 etc.
- Reset Setup: corner juggle in 2C>236236E, 214B-6C cancel 214D-6C cancel 236B, link 2C,236B-6C (guard crush),236B, 2B>6A>214A, link 5C(1)... Source: TORU
Team Combos
Vanessa > Oswald
BnB
- Midscreen Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),6A(1),623A(1), QS Oswald, j.A/D,\/,walk forward, 5D(c),3A,214C,...
- 236C,214B, Okizeme [1 Shift Stock]
- Shift back to Vanessa j.D>5C(2)... [2 Shift Stocks]
- Corner Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),[4]-6A,2C,214B-6C, QS Oswald, 3A,214B, delay 236C,214B, Okizeme. [1 Shift Stock]
Midscreen
- Midscreen Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),[4],6A, hyperhop j.D,\/,214B-6C QS Oswald, 3A,214D,236A,214B, Okizeme [1 Shift Stock]
- Vanessa midscreen combo in 236236C, shift out after 2-3 Hits, Oswald lands behind opponent, D(c),214C,236D,236A(whiff), turn around 3A, 214D, (corner) delay 236C,214B, Okizeme.
- Vanessa midscreen combo in 236236C, shift out after 2-3 Hits, Oswald lands behind opponent, delay 3A,214A,236B,236E (Ace). Only works with sufficient distance to the corner.
- Vanessa midscreen combo in 41236P, shift out after 3 hits, Oswald lands behind opponent, then any ender from above.
Corner
- Corner Vanessa Combo in [4],6A,2A (whiff),2C-214B-6C, QS Oswald 3A,214B,236A,214B, Okizeme [1 Shift Stock]
- Corner Vanessa Combo in [4],6A,2A (whiff),2C-214B-6C, QS Oswald 3A,214B, link 2363214A, shift out after 2 hits, Vanessa j.D,\/,C,[4]6A,2A(whiff),2C-214B-6C, opponent is stunned[2 Shift Stocks, 1 Super]
- Vanessa corner Leader combo > 623C x N, 623C shift out Oswald, backdash, 3A,236B,236A,236B,236E (ACE)
- Vanessa corner Leader combo > 236236C shift out Oswald j.C,\/,3A,236B,236A,236B,236E (ACE)
Other
- Cornered Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),[4],6A, hyperhop j.D,\/,214B-6C QS Oswald, 3A,delay 214C,236B-236E: [1 Shift Stock] Ace Setup. Alternative to the combo above.
- Corner Crossup combo: Vanessa corner combo in 236236P, QS Oswald, D(c)(crossup). Note: The combo only works if D(c) is put in once Oswald has landed, otherwise a j.D (whiff) > D(c) is triggered and the Corner Crossup doesn't work. The time frame to shift the 3rd hit and still get the 5D to combo is 10F.
- another corner crossup combo: Vanessa combo into 41236P mash, QS Oswald, D(C) (crossup).
Oswald > Vanessa
Midscreen
- Oswald midscreen combo into 214C, QS Vanessa, j.C/j.B,\/,walk forward,C(2), then:
- 236236P
- 6P>41236P or 623A
- 6P>236236E>C(f),[4]-6A,....
Corner
- Oswald corner combo into 2363214A, on 2nd Hit QS Vanessa j.D,\/,C....
- Oswald corner combo into 214C(2),236C QS Vanessa j.B/C/D, sofort 236236E, 214B-6C etc
- Oswald corner combo into 214C(2),236C QS Vanessa \/,2C sofort 236236E, 214B-6C etc
- Oswald corner combo into 214C(1),236A QS Vanessa \/,2C sofort 236263E, 214B-6C etc
- Oswald cornered, combo into 214C>236A(whiff), turn around 3A,214B,214C QS Vanessa,\/,2C,236236E, 214B-6C etc
Strategy
- 2D is a great poke and should always be canceled into 214P or 214/236K.
- j.B is an excellent Air-to-Air and also works as a jump-in.On whiff, immediately use 214K to escape.
- To avoid saving shift on a stunned opponent, use 214[P] > 6P for the uppercut > 236B...
Okizeme
- Meaty 2D>214P sway: safe against reversals due to the whiff cancel.
- Combo into [4],6A, smalljump delay j.D,\/, dash, then 5C(c) left/right of the opponent (unsafe vs Reversals & Rolls also work against it)
- After Corner Combo in 623C Loop > 2A(whiff) > 2C(hit) > 214B-6C, link 5C(1)>214P(whiff)>meaty 5C: Vanessa is +1 (trades with Kula's 5C(c)).
Links
Japanese Vanessa-Wiki
Vanessa-Wiki from Hartheon
Urasia vs Tori Part 1
Urasia vs Tori Part 2
Urasia vs Tori Part 3
Urasia vs Tori, differently cut (same matches?)
Tori, Vanessa with Malin as Leader
Tori @ 2011 Nationals
Tori, newer tourney, tori's dramatic demise
probably BZR @ kohatsu, january 2018
BZR visiting port24, 2019, part 1 BZR visiting port 24, also, TORI, 2019, part 2
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