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**hyperhop j.D,\/, 214-B6C: for damage. the 6C-followup can be followed up with a QS for more damage, eg. QS K'> j.E whiff,\/,236236A | **hyperhop j.D,\/, 214-B6C: for damage. the 6C-followup can be followed up with a QS for more damage, eg. QS K'> j.E whiff,\/,236236A | ||
*2B>6A, then... | *(2B>)2B>6A, then... | ||
**41236P: hard knockdown. Easier if 2x 2B was used, or 2B>2A>6A... | **41236P: hard knockdown. Easier if 2x 2B was used, or 2B>2A>6A... | ||
**623A(1)>QS: a simple and effective quick shift setup. | **623A(1)>QS: a simple and effective quick shift setup. | ||
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===Vs Gato=== | ===Vs Gato=== | ||
Very difficult matchup. | Very difficult matchup. | ||
:Vanessa lacks the tools to escape from Gato's pressure (no fast mash normals) and she loses in the air as well, which is where she usually shines. | |||
:Use 236B/D>6A>combo during Gato's 236236A super freeze. | :Use 236B/D>6A>combo during Gato's 236236A super freeze. | ||
:Due to its strong hitbox j.C can win against both Gato's 236236B and 236236A supers in some situations, so be prepared to actually hit when Gatos attempt to anti-air you with these supers. | :Due to its strong hitbox j.C can win against both Gato's 236236B and 236236A supers in some situations, so be prepared to actually hit when Gatos attempt to anti-air you with these supers. | ||
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Difficult matchup. | Difficult matchup. | ||
:Oswald's 2B can always low profile Vanessa's j.C, which eliminates one of her most useful normals from the matchup. Instead, use late j.A and j.D against Oswalds who try to abuse 2B, these attacks both beat it. | :Oswald's 2B can always low profile Vanessa's j.C, which eliminates one of her most useful normals from the matchup. Instead, use late j.A and j.D against Oswalds who try to abuse 2B, these attacks both beat it. | ||
:Additionally, his 2B cleanly beats Vanessa's 5C(c), which is her fastest normal. | :Additionally, his 2B cleanly beats Vanessa's 5C(c), which is her fastest normal. | ||
:Oswald's pokes (2B,2A,5C(f),2D) are particularly good against Vanessa on the ground. Try to get past those attacks into close range and apply pressure from there if possible. | |||
:Oswald can punish Vanessa's 41236P on block with 3A, leading into an Ace, so make sure to hit your combos and do not use this move on block. | :Oswald can punish Vanessa's 41236P on block with 3A, leading into an Ace, so make sure to hit your combos and do not use this move on block. | ||
:Using 1B after a jump-in is difficult to combo but | :Using 1B after a jump-in is difficult to combo but a good strategy on block - if oswald uses his 421D counter, the 1B will turn into 3B and beat his j.A. Also, 2B gives good frame advantage and should be used anyway. | ||
Punishes:<br> | Punishes:<br> | ||
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===Vs Ash=== | ===Vs Ash=== | ||
Use [4],6P or 236B (not 236D!) to go through fireballs. | Ok to good matchup. | ||
:Use [4],6P or 236B (not 236D!) to go through fireballs. | |||
:j.C, as always, is particularly strong as a jump-in and can sometimes beat anti-air flashkicks, depending on the angle. | |||
===Vs Kensou=== | ===Vs Kensou=== | ||
Good matchup. | |||
:Vanessa has an easy time getting around Kensou's zoning game with 236B/D and her strong j.C which can beat basically all of Kensou's anti-airs. | |||
:236B/D and 3B both go under Kensou's projectile and his dash punch, which is very strong and should be abused. | :236B/D and 3B both go under Kensou's projectile and his dash punch, which is very strong and should be abused. | ||
:Whenever you see Kensou use 2D on block, try to use 236B in return and cancel into 6A>214P on hit or guard for either a combo or advantage. | :Whenever you see Kensou use 2D on block, try to use 236B in return and cancel into 6A>214P on hit or guard for either a combo or advantage. | ||
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===Vs Mary=== | ===Vs Mary=== | ||
Slightly disadvantageous. | |||
:Mary's slider is annoying since it can hit Vanessa out of [4],6P and 236K. | |||
:Punish [4],6B on block with 41236P | :Punish [4],6B on block with 41236P | ||
:Punish [4],6D on block with 2C or 5D(c) > combo | :Punish [4],6D on block with 2C or 5D(c) > combo | ||
===Vs Griffon=== | ===Vs Griffon=== | ||
Slight advantage for Vanessa | Slight advantage for Vanessa | ||
:Vanessa's high mobility is annoying for Griffon to deal with, however, leaving him alone means he can build meter with 421P-break, so going on the offensive at some point is important. | |||
:Do not overabuse 4,6P and 236K-6A, both can be punished on reaction by Griffon with 3C>super. If you end up pinned in the corner, instead try using max range 3B or try to escape with a superjump. | :Do not overabuse 4,6P and 236K-6A, both can be punished on reaction by Griffon with 3C>super. If you end up pinned in the corner, instead try using max range 3B or try to escape with a superjump. | ||
===Vs K'=== | ===Vs K'=== | ||
Very difficult matchup. K's j E dominates the match. It is also particularly hard to escape the corner and get close enough to land big damage. Your only hope is j.B, which can beat j.E. | Very difficult matchup. | ||
: | :K's j E dominates the match. It is also particularly hard to escape the corner and get close enough to land big damage. Your only hope is j.B, which can beat j.E. K's 236P>214K slide also beats Vanessa's 236K and [4],6P approaches. | ||
:If you land a midscreen knockdown, eg. off of a 2D, Vanessa's 236K can go through K's back ukemi, allowing you to cross him up with eg. 5C or 2B after (see also the okizeme section). | |||
===Vs Iori=== | ===Vs Iori=== | ||
Probably advantageous | Probably advantageous | ||
:Vanessa's air normals dominate, especially j.P, and once close, Vanessa's pressure with 2B>6A>214P and 2D>214P is strong. | |||
:Use wakeup 214P to completely dodge Iori's 5D(c) okizeme | :Use wakeup 214P to completely dodge Iori's 5D(c) okizeme | ||