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*Vanessa can be thrown out of her Guard Cancel Roll. | *Vanessa can be thrown out of her Guard Cancel Roll. | ||
*Vanessa can be thrown with command throws while getting up from a slide knockdown. | *Vanessa can be thrown with command throws while getting up from a slide knockdown. | ||
*Vanessa can loop her 623C infinitely in the corner. The maximum allowed 623C inputs are 5 (= 4 loops) for tournaments and casual play. | |||
== | == Combos == | ||
*6A | *'''2B,6A, 214A, link C(c)(2 hits), [4],6A, j.CD:''' bnb, this is also the default "command"-combo | ||
* | *'''2B,6A, 214A, link C(c)(2 hits), [4],6A, delay 2C, 214K-6C:''' Corner version of the BnB. | ||
* | *'''2B,6A,214A, link C(c)(2 hits), (...6A,...) 41236P~, Quick Shift''' Quick Shift Setup. | ||
* | *'''out of Quick Shift j.B or j.C,\/,C(f),[4],6A, [j.CD] or [hyperhop j.D,\/ 214K-6C]:''' Combo out of Quick Shift. | ||
**'''after 6C: Quick Shift again''' | |||
*'''Corner 623Cx5, 2C,214K-6C, [link 236236P]:''' ''[0-1 Super]'' Punishment-Combo, eg. for stun. | |||
*''' | |||
*''' | *'''Corner combo in [4],6A, 5A whiff, 5A>214B>6C, link 236236P:''' ''[1 Super]'' [https://youtu.be/0dHjeSy0tJo?t=754 Source] | ||
=== Leader Combos === | |||
== Leader Combos == | |||
*midscreen combo in C(2 hits),6A,236236E, C(far, 2 hits), [4],6A cancel 236B, delay 2A,214D-6E cancel 236B, 236236P, shift out | *midscreen combo in C(2 hits),6A,236236E, C(far, 2 hits), [4],6A cancel 236B, delay 2A,214D-6E cancel 236B, 236236P, shift out | ||
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*midscreen combo in C(2 hits),6A,236236E, [4],6A-236B,2A-214D-6C-236B-2C-236B (Crossup)... | *midscreen combo in C(2 hits),6A,236236E, [4],6A-236B,2A-214D-6C-236B-2C-236B (Crossup)... | ||
*midscreen to corner combo in C(2 hits),6A,236236E, [4],6A, hyperhop delay j.D, | *midscreen to corner combo in C(2 hits),6A,236236E, [4],6A, hyperhop delay j.D, land, 214B-6C cancel 236B-6C (1 hit) cancel 214B-6C cancel 623C.... | ||
*Corner Combo in [4],6A, 2A(whiff),2C,236236E, 214B-6C cancel 214D-6C cancel 236B, link 2C,214D-6C cancel 214B-6C cancel 623C, 623C x N, 2C,214B-6C, link 236236P, shift out | *Corner Combo in [4],6A, 2A(whiff),2C,236236E, 214B-6C cancel 214D-6C cancel 236B, link 2C,214D-6C cancel 214B-6C cancel 623C, 623C x N, 2C,214B-6C, link 236236P, shift out | ||
*Combo in 236236P, Dream Cancel 2. Hit in 236236E, C(far),[4],6A, link hyperhop j.D,\/,214B-6C cancel 236B-C cancel erster Hit 214B-6C cancel 623C, 623C x | *Combo in 236236P, Dream Cancel 2. Hit in 236236E, C(far),[4],6A, link hyperhop j.D,\/,214B-6C cancel 236B-C cancel erster Hit 214B-6C cancel 623C, 623C x 5 etc. | ||
*Reset Setup: corner juggle in 2C>236236E, 214B-6C cancel 214D-6C cancel 236B, link 2C,236B-6C (guard crush),236B, 2B>6A>214A, link 5C(1)... [https://youtu.be/uBMPJ0GObQU?t=1183 | *Reset Setup: corner juggle in 2C>236236E, 214B-6C cancel 214D-6C cancel 236B, link 2C,236B-6C (guard crush),236B, 2B>6A>214A, link 5C(1)... [https://youtu.be/uBMPJ0GObQU?t=1183 Source: TORU] | ||
== Team Combos == | == Team Combos == | ||
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=== Vanessa > Oswald === | === Vanessa > Oswald === | ||
'''BnB''' | '''BnB''' | ||
*Midscreen Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),6A(1),623A(1), | *Midscreen Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),6A(1),623A(1), QS Oswald, j.A/D,\/,walk forward, 5D(c),3A,214C,... | ||
**236C,214B, Okizeme ''[1 Shift Stock]'' | **236C,214B, Okizeme ''[1 Shift Stock]'' | ||
**Shift back | **Shift back to Vanessa j.D>5C(2)... ''[2 Shift Stocks]'' | ||
*Corner Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),[4]-6A,2C,214B-6C, | *Corner Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),[4]-6A,2C,214B-6C, QS Oswald, 3A,214B, delay 236C,214B, Okizeme. ''[1 Shift Stock]'' | ||
'''Midscreen''' | '''Midscreen''' | ||
*Midscreen Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),[4],6A, hyperhop j.D,\/,214B-6C | *Midscreen Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),[4],6A, hyperhop j.D,\/,214B-6C QS Oswald, 3A,214D,236A,214B, Okizeme ''[1 Shift Stock]'' | ||
*Vanessa midscreen combo in 236236C, shift out | *Vanessa midscreen combo in 236236C, shift out after 2-3 Hits, Oswald lands behind opponent, D(c),214C,236D,236A(whiff), turn around 3A, 214D, (corner) delay 236C,214B, Okizeme. | ||
*Vanessa midscreen combo in 236236C, shift out | *Vanessa midscreen combo in 236236C, shift out after 2-3 Hits, Oswald lands behind opponent, delay 3A,214A,236B,236E (Ace). Only works with sufficient distance to the corner. | ||
*Vanessa midscreen combo in 41236P, shift out | *Vanessa midscreen combo in 41236P, shift out after 3 hits, Oswald lands behind opponent, then any ender from above. | ||
'''Corner''' | '''Corner''' | ||
*Corner Vanessa Combo in [4],6A,2A (whiff),2C-214B-6C, | *Corner Vanessa Combo in [4],6A,2A (whiff),2C-214B-6C, QS Oswald 3A,214B,236A,214B, Okizeme ''[1 Shift Stock]'' | ||
*Corner Vanessa Combo in [4],6A,2A (whiff),2C-214B-6C, | *Corner Vanessa Combo in [4],6A,2A (whiff),2C-214B-6C, QS Oswald 3A,214B, link 2363214A, shift out after 2 hits, Vanessa j.D,\/,C,[4]6A,2A(whiff),2C-214B-6C, opponent is stunned''[2 Shift Stocks, 1 Super]'' | ||
*Vanessa corner Leader combo > 623C x N, 623C shift out Oswald, backdash, 3A,236B,236A,236B,236E (ACE) | *Vanessa corner Leader combo > 623C x N, 623C shift out Oswald, backdash, 3A,236B,236A,236B,236E (ACE) | ||
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''' | '''Other''' | ||
*Cornered Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),[4],6A, hyperhop j.D,\/,214B-6C | *Cornered Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),[4],6A, hyperhop j.D,\/,214B-6C QS Oswald, 3A,delay 214C,236B-236E: ''[1 Shift Stock]'' Ace Setup. Alternative to the combo above. | ||
*Corner Crossup combo: Vanessa corner combo in 236236P, | *Corner Crossup combo: Vanessa corner combo in 236236P, QS Oswald, D(c)(crossup). ''Note: The combo only works if D(c) is put in once Oswald has landed, otherwise a j.D (whiff) > D(c) is triggered and the Corner Crossup doesn't work. The time frame to shift the 3rd hit and still get the 5D to combo is 10F.'' | ||
* | *another corner crossup combo: Vanessa combo into 41236P mash, QS Oswald, D(C) (crossup). | ||
===Oswald > Vanessa=== | ===Oswald > Vanessa=== | ||
'''Midscreen''' | '''Midscreen''' | ||
*Oswald midscreen combo | *Oswald midscreen combo into 214C, QS Vanessa, j.C/j.B,\/,walk forward,C(2), then: | ||
**236236P | **236236P | ||
**6P>41236P | **6P>41236P or 623A | ||
**6P>236236E>C(f),[4]-6A,.... | **6P>236236E>C(f),[4]-6A,.... | ||
'''Corner''' | '''Corner''' | ||
*Oswald corner combo into 2363214A, | *Oswald corner combo into 2363214A, on 2nd Hit QS Vanessa j.D,\/,C.... | ||
*Oswald corner combo into 214C(2),236C | *Oswald corner combo into 214C(2),236C QS Vanessa j.B/C/D, sofort 236236E, 214B-6C etc | ||
*Oswald corner combo into 214C(2),236C | *Oswald corner combo into 214C(2),236C QS Vanessa \/,2C sofort 236236E, 214B-6C etc | ||
*Oswald corner combo into 214C(1),236A | *Oswald corner combo into 214C(1),236A QS Vanessa \/,2C sofort 236263E, 214B-6C etc | ||
*Oswald cornered, combo | *Oswald cornered, combo into 214C>236A(whiff), turn around 3A,214B,214C QS Vanessa,\/,2C,236236E, 214B-6C etc | ||
== | == Strategy == | ||
*2D | *2D is a great poke and should always be canceled into 214P or 214/236K. | ||
*j.B | *j.B is an excellent Air-to-Air and also works as a jump-in.On whiff, immediately use 214K to escape. | ||
* | *To avoid saving shift on a stunned opponent, use 214[P] > 6P for the uppercut > 236B... | ||
=== Okizeme=== | === Okizeme=== | ||
*Meaty 2D>214P sway | *Meaty 2D>214P sway: safe against reversals due to the whiff cancel. | ||
*Combo | *Combo into [4],6A, smalljump delay j.D,\/, dash, then 5C(c) left/right of the opponent (unsafe vs Reversals & Rolls also work against it) | ||
* | *After Corner Combo in 623C Loop > 2A(whiff) > 2C(hit) > 214B-6C, link 5C(1)>214P(whiff)>meaty 5C: Vanessa is +1 (trades with Kula's 5C(c)). | ||
== Links == | == Links == | ||
[http://seesaawiki.jp/w/givingleaf1/d/%a5%f4%a5%a1%a5%cd%a5%c3%a5%b5 | [http://seesaawiki.jp/w/givingleaf1/d/%a5%f4%a5%a1%a5%cd%a5%c3%a5%b5 Japanese Vanessa-Wiki]<br> | ||
[http://hartheon.web.fc2.com/character/vanessa.html Vanessa-Wiki | [http://hartheon.web.fc2.com/character/vanessa.html Vanessa-Wiki from Hartheon]<br> | ||
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp5uwi_aFVs Urasia vs Tori Part 1]<br> | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp5uwi_aFVs Urasia vs Tori Part 1]<br> | ||
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo8gDtqlSGE Urasia vs Tori Part 2]<br> | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo8gDtqlSGE Urasia vs Tori Part 2]<br> | ||
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz5OVdJscBY Urasia vs Tori Part 3]<br> | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz5OVdJscBY Urasia vs Tori Part 3]<br> | ||
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEGupQZiRkI Urasia vs Tori, | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEGupQZiRkI Urasia vs Tori, differently cut (same matches?)]<br> | ||
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHMTs1ZwpiI Tori, Vanessa | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHMTs1ZwpiI Tori, Vanessa with Malin as Leader]<br> | ||
[https://youtu.be/tPoVmUaGJeA?t=69 Tori | [https://youtu.be/tPoVmUaGJeA?t=69 Tori @ 2011 Nationals]<br> | ||
[http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30447811 Tori, | [http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30447811 Tori, newer tourney], [http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30489363 tori's dramatic demise]<br> | ||
[https://youtu.be/idkQKnCUDM4?t=4550 | [https://youtu.be/idkQKnCUDM4?t=4550 probably BZR @ kohatsu, january 2018] | ||
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5CikBHbHgI BZR | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5CikBHbHgI BZR visiting port24, 2019, part 1] | ||
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9iYIdF2vaU BZR | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9iYIdF2vaU BZR visiting port 24, also, TORI, 2019, part 2] | ||
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