Vanessa(KOFXI): Unterschied zwischen den Versionen

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*Vanessa can be thrown out of her Guard Cancel Roll.
*Vanessa can be thrown out of her Guard Cancel Roll.
*Vanessa can be thrown with command throws while getting up from a slide knockdown.
*Vanessa can be thrown with command throws while getting up from a slide knockdown.
*Vanessa can loop her 623C infinitely in the corner. The maximum allowed 623C inputs are 5 (= 4 loops) for tournaments and casual play.


== Normals ==
== Combos ==


*6A: Hard Knockdown. Der 1. hit hat Special cancel, wenn man 6A aus einer Chain ausführt.
*'''2B,6A, 214A, link C(c)(2 hits), [4],6A, j.CD:''' bnb, this is also the default "command"-combo


*3B: Slide. Knockdown. Low Profile. Keine Cancels außer Tagout.
*'''2B,6A, 214A, link C(c)(2 hits), [4],6A, delay 2C, 214K-6C:''' Corner version of the BnB.


*5C(c): 2 Hits. 2. Hit hat Special Cancel und chaint / combot in 6A. Vanessa's schnellster Normal.
*'''2B,6A,214A, link C(c)(2 hits), (...6A,...) 41236P~, Quick Shift''' Quick Shift Setup.
 
*5C(f) 2 Hits, treffen fast zeitgleich. Special Cancel.
 
*2B: Chaint und combot in 6A
 
*2D: Special cancel, gut für Pressure (2D > 214B)
 
 
*j.A: wird nur als Shift-in normal verwendet, beim reinkommen
 
*j.B: siehe j.A, außerdem sehr gute Hitbox, sowohl Air-to-Air als auch Air-to-Ground.
 
*j.C: reicht weit nach unten, geht auch als instant Overhead.
 
*j.D: gute horizontale Reichweite.
 
=== Specials ===
*41236P: Machine Gun Punch. Vanessa's schnellster Move (sogar schneller als 5C). Mashen erhöht die Hits auf maximal 6. Bis zum vorletzen Hit kann man Shiften und noch normal weitercomboen, wenn man auf den letzten Hit shiftet, geht nur noch OTG.
 
*[4],6P: Uppercut, launcht, Followup-Combo möglich. A-Version combot aus schweren Angriffen.
 
*623P (Forbidden Eagle): Wird für Combos benutzt. Nach C-Version darf man weiter juggeln. C-Version hat außerdem Guard Point auf dem 2. Hit.
 
*214B/D: Backstep, D-Version bewegt Vanessa weiter (Followups treffen später)
**6A Special- und Super Cancel
**6C Juggle anywhere
 
*214A/C: Sway. Oberkörper ist unverwundbar, so lange man den Button hält.
**6A: Uppercut, danach gehen Juggle. Hat sowohl Special als auch Super Cancel. Beispiel-Combo: 214[A]-6C,236B, 236236P.
**6C: Overhead. Hard Knockdown.
 
 
=== Supers ===
*236236P: Proximity Super (geht nur nahe am Gegner). Juggelt. Stellt Gegner wieder auf die Beine. Massiver Hit-Stun, sehr gut für Shift out Combos. Dream Cancel geht bis zum 2. Hit, Shift Out geht bis zum 3. Hit.
*214236P: Ranbu-Super. Trifft nur stehende Gegner, daher relativ Sinnlos.


*236236E: Leader Activation Super. Vanessa kann für begrenzte Zeit Specials in Specials Canceln.
*'''out of Quick Shift j.B or j.C,\/,C(f),[4],6A, [j.CD] or [hyperhop j.D,\/ 214K-6C]:''' Combo out of Quick Shift.
**'''after 6C: Quick Shift again'''


=== Combos ===
*'''Corner 623Cx5, 2C,214K-6C, [link 236236P]:''' ''[0-1 Super]'' Punishment-Combo, eg. for stun.
 
*'''2B,6A, 214A, link C(c)(2 hits), [4],6A, j.CD:''' bnb, außerdem die program-combo
 
*'''2B,6A, 214A, link C(c)(2 hits), [4],6A, delay 2C, 214K-6C:''' Corner-Variation der BnB.
 
*'''2B,6A,214A, link C(c)(2 hits), (...6A,...) 41236P~, Quick Shift''' Quick Shift Setup.


*'''aus Quick Shift j.B oder j.C,\/,C(f),[4],6A, [j.CD] oder [hyperhop j.D,\/ 214K-6C]:''' Combo aus Quick Shift heraus.
*'''Corner combo in [4],6A, 5A whiff, 5A>214B>6C, link 236236P:''' ''[1 Super]'' [https://youtu.be/0dHjeSy0tJo?t=754 Source]
**'''nach 6C: Quick Shift'''


*'''Corner 623CxN, 2C,214K-6C, [link 236236P]:''' ''[0-1 Super]'' Punishment-Combo z.B. bei Dizzy.


*'''Corner combo in [4],6A, 5A whiff, 5A>214B>6C, link 236236P:''' ''[1 Super]'' [https://youtu.be/0dHjeSy0tJo?t=754 Quelle]
=== Leader Combos ===
== Leader Combos ==


*midscreen combo in C(2 hits),6A,236236E, C(far, 2 hits), [4],6A cancel 236B, delay 2A,214D-6E cancel 236B, 236236P, shift out
*midscreen combo in C(2 hits),6A,236236E, C(far, 2 hits), [4],6A cancel 236B, delay 2A,214D-6E cancel 236B, 236236P, shift out
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*midscreen combo in C(2 hits),6A,236236E, [4],6A-236B,2A-214D-6C-236B-2C-236B (Crossup)...
*midscreen combo in C(2 hits),6A,236236E, [4],6A-236B,2A-214D-6C-236B-2C-236B (Crossup)...


*midscreen to corner combo in C(2 hits),6A,236236E, [4],6A, hyperhop delay j.D, landen, 214B-6C cancel 236B-6C (1 hit) cancel 214B-6C cancel 623C....
*midscreen to corner combo in C(2 hits),6A,236236E, [4],6A, hyperhop delay j.D, land, 214B-6C cancel 236B-6C (1 hit) cancel 214B-6C cancel 623C....


*Corner Combo in [4],6A, 2A(whiff),2C,236236E, 214B-6C cancel 214D-6C cancel 236B, link 2C,214D-6C cancel 214B-6C cancel 623C, 623C x N, 2C,214B-6C, link 236236P, shift out
*Corner Combo in [4],6A, 2A(whiff),2C,236236E, 214B-6C cancel 214D-6C cancel 236B, link 2C,214D-6C cancel 214B-6C cancel 623C, 623C x N, 2C,214B-6C, link 236236P, shift out


*Combo in 236236P, Dream Cancel 2. Hit in 236236E, C(far),[4],6A, link hyperhop j.D,\/,214B-6C cancel 236B-C cancel erster Hit 214B-6C cancel 623C, 623C x N usw.
*Combo in 236236P, Dream Cancel 2. Hit in 236236E, C(far),[4],6A, link hyperhop j.D,\/,214B-6C cancel 236B-C cancel erster Hit 214B-6C cancel 623C, 623C x 5 etc.


*Reset Setup: corner juggle in 2C>236236E, 214B-6C cancel 214D-6C cancel 236B, link 2C,236B-6C (guard crush),236B, 2B>6A>214A, link 5C(1)...  [https://youtu.be/uBMPJ0GObQU?t=1183 Quelle: TORU]
*Reset Setup: corner juggle in 2C>236236E, 214B-6C cancel 214D-6C cancel 236B, link 2C,236B-6C (guard crush),236B, 2B>6A>214A, link 5C(1)...  [https://youtu.be/uBMPJ0GObQU?t=1183 Source: TORU]


== Team Combos ==
== Team Combos ==
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=== Vanessa > Oswald ===
=== Vanessa > Oswald ===
'''BnB'''
'''BnB'''
*Midscreen Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),6A(1),623A(1), shift out zu Oswald,j.A/D,\/,vorlaufen,D(c),3A,214C,...
*Midscreen Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),6A(1),623A(1), QS Oswald, j.A/D,\/,walk forward, 5D(c),3A,214C,...
**236C,214B, Okizeme ''[1 Shift Stock]''
**236C,214B, Okizeme ''[1 Shift Stock]''
**Shift back zu Vanessa j.D>5C(2)... ''[2 Shift Stocks]''
**Shift back to Vanessa j.D>5C(2)... ''[2 Shift Stocks]''


*Corner Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),[4]-6A,2C,214B-6C, shift out zu Oswald,3A,214B, delay 236C,214B, Okizeme. ''[1 Shift Stock]''
*Corner Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),[4]-6A,2C,214B-6C, QS Oswald, 3A,214B, delay 236C,214B, Okizeme. ''[1 Shift Stock]''




'''Midscreen'''
'''Midscreen'''
*Midscreen Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),[4],6A, hyperhop j.D,\/,214B-6C shift out zu Oswald,3A,214D,236A,214B, Okizeme ''[1 Shift Stock]''
*Midscreen Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),[4],6A, hyperhop j.D,\/,214B-6C QS Oswald, 3A,214D,236A,214B, Okizeme ''[1 Shift Stock]''


*Vanessa midscreen combo in 236236C, shift out nach 2-3 Hits, Oswald landet hinter dem Gegner, D(c),214C,236D,236A(whiff), turn around 3A, 214D, (corner) delay 236C,214B, Okizeme.
*Vanessa midscreen combo in 236236C, shift out after 2-3 Hits, Oswald lands behind opponent, D(c),214C,236D,236A(whiff), turn around 3A, 214D, (corner) delay 236C,214B, Okizeme.
*Vanessa midscreen combo in 236236C, shift out nach 2-3 Hits, Oswald landet hinter dem Gegner, delay 3A,214A,236B,236E (Ace). Geht nur mit genug Abstand zur Ecke.
*Vanessa midscreen combo in 236236C, shift out after 2-3 Hits, Oswald lands behind opponent, delay 3A,214A,236B,236E (Ace). Only works with sufficient distance to the corner.
*Vanessa midscreen combo in 41236P, shift out nach 3 hits, Oswald landet hinter dem Gegner, dann Ender wie die Combos drüber.
*Vanessa midscreen combo in 41236P, shift out after 3 hits, Oswald lands behind opponent, then any ender from above.


'''Corner'''
'''Corner'''
*Corner Vanessa Combo in [4],6A,2A (whiff),2C-214B-6C, shift out, Oswald 3A,214B,236A,214B, Okizeme ''[1 Shift Stock]''
*Corner Vanessa Combo in [4],6A,2A (whiff),2C-214B-6C, QS Oswald 3A,214B,236A,214B, Okizeme ''[1 Shift Stock]''
*Corner Vanessa Combo in [4],6A,2A (whiff),2C-214B-6C, shift out, Oswald 3A,214B, link 2363214A, shift out nach 2 hits, Vanessa j.D,\/,C,[4]6A,2A(whiff),2C-214B-6C, Gegner Dizzy ''[2 Shift Stocks, 1 Super]''
*Corner Vanessa Combo in [4],6A,2A (whiff),2C-214B-6C, QS Oswald 3A,214B, link 2363214A, shift out after 2 hits, Vanessa j.D,\/,C,[4]6A,2A(whiff),2C-214B-6C, opponent is stunned''[2 Shift Stocks, 1 Super]''


*Vanessa corner Leader combo > 623C x N, 623C shift out Oswald, backdash, 3A,236B,236A,236B,236E (ACE)
*Vanessa corner Leader combo > 623C x N, 623C shift out Oswald, backdash, 3A,236B,236A,236B,236E (ACE)
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'''Sonstiges'''
'''Other'''
*Cornered Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),[4],6A, hyperhop j.D,\/,214B-6C shift out zu Oswald,3A,delay 214C,236B-236E: ''[1 Shift Stock]'' Ace Setup. Alternative zur Combo drüber.
*Cornered Vanessa j.C,\/,C(2),[4],6A, hyperhop j.D,\/,214B-6C QS Oswald, 3A,delay 214C,236B-236E: ''[1 Shift Stock]'' Ace Setup. Alternative to the combo above.


*Corner Crossup combo: Vanessa corner combo in 236236P, shift out Oswald, D(c)(crossup). ''Note: Die Combo funktioniert nur, wenn D(c) erst gedrückt wird, wenn Oswald gelandet ist, sonst bekommt man einen j.D (whiff) > D(c), und der Corner Crossup funktioniert nicht. Man hat 10F Zeit, um den 3. Hit von 236236P mit shift out zu canceln, ansonsten combot der D(c) nicht mehr.''
*Corner Crossup combo: Vanessa corner combo in 236236P, QS Oswald, D(c)(crossup). ''Note: The combo only works if D(c) is put in once Oswald has landed, otherwise a j.D (whiff) > D(c) is triggered and the Corner Crossup doesn't work. The time frame to shift the 3rd hit and still get the 5D to combo is 10F.''
*noch eine Corner Crossup Combo: Vanessa combo in 41236P mash, QS Oswald, D(C) (crossup).
*another corner crossup combo: Vanessa combo into 41236P mash, QS Oswald, D(C) (crossup).


===Oswald > Vanessa===
===Oswald > Vanessa===
'''Midscreen'''
'''Midscreen'''
*Oswald midscreen combo in 214C, shift out zu Vanessa, j.C/j.B,\/,vorlaufen,C(2), dann:
*Oswald midscreen combo into 214C, QS Vanessa, j.C/j.B,\/,walk forward,C(2), then:
**236236P
**236236P
**6P>41236P oder 623A
**6P>41236P or 623A
**6P>236236E>C(f),[4]-6A,....
**6P>236236E>C(f),[4]-6A,....




'''Corner'''
'''Corner'''
*Oswald corner combo into 2363214A, shift out beim 2. Hit, Vanessa j.D,\/,C....
*Oswald corner combo into 2363214A, on 2nd Hit QS Vanessa j.D,\/,C....
*Oswald corner combo into 214C(2),236C shift out Vanessa j.B/C/D, sofort 236236E, 214B-6C usw
*Oswald corner combo into 214C(2),236C QS Vanessa j.B/C/D, sofort 236236E, 214B-6C etc
*Oswald corner combo into 214C(2),236C shift out Vanessa \/,2C sofort 236236E, 214B-6C usw
*Oswald corner combo into 214C(2),236C QS Vanessa \/,2C sofort 236236E, 214B-6C etc
*Oswald corner combo into 214C(1),236A shift out Vanessa \/,2C sofort 236263E, 214B-6C usw
*Oswald corner combo into 214C(1),236A QS Vanessa \/,2C sofort 236263E, 214B-6C etc
*Oswald cornered, combo in 214C>236A(whiff), turn around 3A,214B,214C shift out Vanessa,\/,2C,236236E, 214B-6C usw
*Oswald cornered, combo into 214C>236A(whiff), turn around 3A,214B,214C QS Vanessa,\/,2C,236236E, 214B-6C etc


== Strategie ==
== Strategy ==
*2D als Poke ist sehr gut und sollte immer in 214P oder 214/236K gecancelt werden.
*2D is a great poke and should always be canceled into 214P or 214/236K.
*j.B ist sehr gut Air-to-Air und auch als Jump-In zu gebrauchen. Bei whiff kann man z.B: direkt 214B benutzen zum abhauen.
*j.B is an excellent Air-to-Air and also works as a jump-in.On whiff, immediately use 214K to escape.
*Um bei dizzy Gegner safety shift zu verhindern: direkt 214[P] > 6P für uppercut > 236B...
*To avoid saving shift on a stunned opponent, use 214[P] > 6P for the uppercut > 236B...


=== Okizeme===
=== Okizeme===
*Meaty 2D>214P sway (dank Whiffcancel safe gegen bestimmte Reversals, z.B. SRKs)
*Meaty 2D>214P sway: safe against reversals due to the whiff cancel.
*Combo in [4],6A, smalljump delay j.D,\/, dash, dann 5C(c) links oder rechts vom Gegner (unsafe gegen Reversals und Rolle geht durch)
*Combo into [4],6A, smalljump delay j.D,\/, dash, then 5C(c) left/right of the opponent (unsafe vs Reversals & Rolls also work against it)


*Nach Corner Combo in 623C Loop > 2A(whiff) > 2C(hit) > 214B-6C, link 5C(1)>214P(whiff)>meaty 5C: Vanessa ist +1 (tradet mit Kula's 5C(c)).
*After Corner Combo in 623C Loop > 2A(whiff) > 2C(hit) > 214B-6C, link 5C(1)>214P(whiff)>meaty 5C: Vanessa is +1 (trades with Kula's 5C(c)).


== Links ==
== Links ==
[http://seesaawiki.jp/w/givingleaf1/d/%a5%f4%a5%a1%a5%cd%a5%c3%a5%b5 Japanische Vanessa-Wiki]<br>
[http://seesaawiki.jp/w/givingleaf1/d/%a5%f4%a5%a1%a5%cd%a5%c3%a5%b5 Japanese Vanessa-Wiki]<br>
[http://hartheon.web.fc2.com/character/vanessa.html Vanessa-Wiki von Hartheon]<br>
[http://hartheon.web.fc2.com/character/vanessa.html Vanessa-Wiki from Hartheon]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp5uwi_aFVs Urasia vs Tori Part 1]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp5uwi_aFVs Urasia vs Tori Part 1]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo8gDtqlSGE Urasia vs Tori Part 2]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo8gDtqlSGE Urasia vs Tori Part 2]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz5OVdJscBY Urasia vs Tori Part 3]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz5OVdJscBY Urasia vs Tori Part 3]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEGupQZiRkI Urasia vs Tori, anders geschnitten (selbe Matches?)]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEGupQZiRkI Urasia vs Tori, differently cut (same matches?)]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHMTs1ZwpiI Tori, Vanessa mit Malin als Leader]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHMTs1ZwpiI Tori, Vanessa with Malin as Leader]<br>
[https://youtu.be/tPoVmUaGJeA?t=69 Tori bei den 2011er Nationals]<br>
[https://youtu.be/tPoVmUaGJeA?t=69 Tori @ 2011 Nationals]<br>
[http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30447811 Tori, aktuelles turnier], [http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30489363 tori's dramatisches ende]<br>
[http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30447811 Tori, newer tourney], [http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30489363 tori's dramatic demise]<br>
[https://youtu.be/idkQKnCUDM4?t=4550 vermutlich BZR @ kohatsu, januar 2018]
[https://youtu.be/idkQKnCUDM4?t=4550 probably BZR @ kohatsu, january 2018]


[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5CikBHbHgI BZR zu Besuch bei port 24, 2019, part 1]
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5CikBHbHgI BZR visiting port24, 2019, part 1]
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9iYIdF2vaU BZR zu Besuch bei port 24, außerdem TORI, 2019, part 2]
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9iYIdF2vaU BZR visiting port 24, also, TORI, 2019, part 2]


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