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''Important note about the Diagram: the matchups take team synergy only loosely into account and focus more on a 1on1 situation. This makes characters like eg. Oswald look particularly bad in the diagram, when the opposite is true to his strong shift synergy.''<br> | |||
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Notes | === Additional Notes=== | ||
:Kula vs Duck ist disputed, see [https://wiki.hardedge.org/wiki/Kula_Diamond(KOFXI)#Matchups Kula Matchups] | :Kula vs Duck ist disputed, see [https://wiki.hardedge.org/wiki/Kula_Diamond(KOFXI)#Matchups Kula Matchups] | ||
:Gato vs K' is disputed. Japanese players are split between putting it favor of Gato or considering it even at the very highest level. | :Gato vs K' is disputed. Japanese players are split between putting it favor of Gato or considering it even at the very highest level. | ||
:Gato vs Kensou: according to Sawakoro, Gato has problems getting in on Kensou. | :Gato vs Kensou: according to Sawakoro, Gato has problems getting in on Kensou. According to Kyuntakuya, this is a 7:3 for Kensou. | ||
:All Ralf & Clark matchups were provided by Rock. | :All Ralf & Clark matchups were provided by Rock. | ||
:Gato vs Kim has been provided by Kyuntakuya, who considers it an 8:2. | :Gato vs Kim has been provided by Kyuntakuya, who considers it an 8:2. | ||
:Gato vs Kula has been provided by Shingo, who sees Kula having difficulties approaching, even though her corner pressure is strong. On the other hand, if Gato & Kula are not Leaders in this matchup, Kula can also play this defensively and abuse her strong anti-airs. | :Gato vs Kula has been provided by Shingo, who sees Kula having difficulties approaching, even though her corner pressure is strong. On the other hand, if Gato & Kula are not Leaders in this matchup, Kula can also play this defensively and abuse her strong anti-airs. | ||
''' | ===Whip Matchups=== | ||
:''' | Note from ATG: I asked u-rasia for whip matchups, he provided the following, based on his experience using all of those characters against Kentucky (strong Whip player):<br> | ||
:''' | ''"The basis of the information is the case where I fought against Kenta's Whip with the 37 characters I use. | ||
:''' | I think WHIP has all the elements to win against any opponent."'' | ||
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: | :30:70 K' Kura | ||
:' | :35:65 Yuri Gato Adelheid | ||
:' | :40:60 Ash Shen Terry Ryo King Griffon Clark | ||
:45:55 Oswald Benimaru Jenet Athena Kensou Vanessa Mary Eiji Kyo Iori Jazu Silber | |||
:50:50 Elisabeth Kim Ralf Malin Maxima Gai Hayate Duck | |||
:55:45 Duolon Momoko Ramon Kasumi Shingo | |||
As of Sawakoro Festival, Duck has changed from a 35:65 to a 50:50 since u-rasia and others discovered that Whip's 2D beats all of Duck's jump attacks except j.E. | |||
===Matchup impressions of Kyuntakuya=== | |||
:Eiji vs Oswald: 9:1 (note from ATG: Eiji j.B beats low profile 2B, and Eiji 2B can even beat Oswald's 5C(f) clean) | |||
:Eiji vs Yuri: 2:8 (worst matchup, her strong air normals make this hard) | |||
:Eiji vs Kensou: 6:4 | |||
:Gato vs Jazu: 5:5 | |||
:Gato vs Kensou: 3:7 | |||
:Gato vs Kula: 5:5 | |||
:Gato vs Kim: 8:2 | |||
:Kim vs Kula: 1:9 or even 0:10 | |||
:Kim vs K': 5:5 | |||
:Kim vs Oswald: 6:4 or 5:5 | |||
:Kim vs Ryo: in favor of Ryo | |||
===Matchup impressions of Miekazu=== | |||
:Oswald vs Ryo & Kim: if Oswald is played on point, the matchups are almost even. Unlike Kula/Gato/K', they cannot play a long-range / keepaway game and need to get close to Oswald, which is good for him. | |||
:Oswald vs K': advantage K'. Getting around Ein Trigger followups is hard, 623A is good against Oswald as an anti-air even on trade, and once K' has a stock, it restricts Oswald's movement. However, if Oswald gets into close range, he has an advantage. | |||
===Matchup impressions of Sawakoro=== | |||
Provided in January 2024<br> | |||
:Griffon vs Gato 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Griffon vs K' 4:6 (because of K' j.E, also griffon 3C doesn't work against it) | |||
:Griffon vs Kula 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Griffon vs Oswald 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Griffon vs Ryo 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Griffon vs Kim 4:6 (because kim is quite small) | |||
:Griffon vs Ralf 5:5 | |||
:Griffon vs Vanessa 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Griffon vs Terry 5:5 | |||
:Griffon vs Clark 5.5:4.5 | |||
:Griffon vs Duck 5.5:4.5 | |||
:Griffon vs Eiji 5:5 | |||
:Griffon vs Silber 6:4 | |||
:Griffon vs Maxima 5:5 | |||
:Griffon vs Jazu 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Griffon vs Adelheid 5:5 | |||
:Griffon vs Iori 5:5 | |||
:Griffon vs Kyo 5.5:4.5 | |||
:Griffon vs Gai 5.5:4.5 | |||
:Griffon vs Ash 4.5:5.5 (projectile game & anti-air of Ash is strong) | |||
:Griffon vs Kensou 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Griffon vs King 4.5:5.5 (high & low venom are problems) | |||
:Griffon vs Yuri 4.5:5.5 (j.D & j.C are very strong against Griffon) | |||
:Mary vs Gato 4:6 | |||
:Mary vs K' 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Mary vs Kula 4:6 | |||
:Mary vs Oswald 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Mary vs Ryo 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Mary vs Kim 5:5 | |||
:Mary vs Ralf 5:5 | |||
:Mary vs Vanessa 5.5:4.5 | |||
:Mary vs Terry 5:5 (power wave can be annoying in this matchup, so is Terry's j.D) | |||
:Mary vs Clark 4.5:5.5 (clark can punish mary's j.D with his command grab during her landing recovery) | |||
:Mary vs Duck 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Mary vs Eiji 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Mary vs Silber 5.5:4.5 | |||
:Mary vs Maxima 5:5 | |||
:Mary vs Jazu 5.5:4.5 | |||
:Mary vs Adelheid 5:5 | |||
:Mary vs Iori 5:5 (iori's projectile is a bit annoying) | |||
:Mary vs Kyo 5:5 | |||
:Mary vs Gai 5:5 | |||
:Mary vs Ash 5.5:4.5 (Mary can use slicer to go under fireballs) | |||
:Mary vs Kensou 5:5 | |||
:Mary vs King 5:5 | |||
:Mary vs Yuri 5:5 | |||
:Silber vs Gato 3.5:6.5 (gato's j.D cannot be countered well because Silber's regular counter has 5F startup, only the super counter works) | |||
:Silber vs Kula 4:6 | |||
:Silber vs Oswald 4.5:5.5 (Silber can cross up Oswald with j.D, this helps a lot) | |||
:Silber vs Ryo 4:6 | |||
:Silber vs K' 3.5:6.5 (j.E too strong & silber cannot counter his 2B&2D; k' can punish cancel 6A on hit with heat drive) | |||
:Silber vs Kim 4.5 5.5 | |||
:Silber vs Ralf 3:7 (worst matchup, ralf can cancel C into grab to beat counter, also, his neutral is very strong) | |||
:Silber vs Vanessa 4:6 (Vanessa can run away easily in this matchup) | |||
:Silber vs Terry 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Silber vs Clark 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Silber vs Duck 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Silber vs Eiji 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Silber vs Maxima 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Silber vs Jazu 4:6 (Silber's LDM does not work against Jazu's 236C fireball) | |||
:Silber vs Adelheid 5:5 (Silber can punish Adel's LDM with his own, also, Silber can cross up adel with j.D) | |||
:Silber vs Iori 4.5:5.5 | |||
:Silber vs Kyo 5:5 | |||
:Silber vs Gai 4.5:5.5 (gai's sway is strong against silber) | |||
:Silber vs Ash 4.5:5.5 (fireball zoning is strong) | |||
:Silber vs Kensou 4:6 (silber's LDM almost always goes over kensou's hurtbox when he shoots a fireball) | |||
:Silber vs King 4.5:5.5 (top venom cannot be punished by silber) | |||
:Silber vs Yuri 4.5:5.5 (Yuri's normal attacks & command throw are strong) | |||
==Radar Charts== | |||
As of 2023, Radar Charts have become a popular way to analyze character strengths and weaknesses with the Japanese KOFXI players.<br> | |||
U-rasia made a huge list where he ranked many aspects of each individual character and placed them in a ranking based on the total results, and recently (2023/08/11) updated it together with AKO3 (akio, kentucky, kodsuka).<br> | |||
Translated by ATG, you can find it here: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ouR-EJhgjgqK7P3B3UbVDqDDgB2nAhN40tzHeNCLGdo/edit?usp=sharing link to google drive] | |||
==Current Tier Lists== | ==Current Tier Lists== | ||
Zeile 1.657: | Zeile 1.762: | ||
"Hayate: in neutral, using projectiles and rush-in-attacks from afar make up his unusual and surprising play style."<br> | "Hayate: in neutral, using projectiles and rush-in-attacks from afar make up his unusual and surprising play style."<br> | ||
"If you are used to these characters, they feel like they have the potential for B to B- tier, but you'll jeopardize the stability of your team." | "If you are used to these characters, they feel like they have the potential for B to B- tier, but you'll jeopardize the stability of your team." | ||
=== Lists from Shingo === | === Lists from Shingo === | ||
Zeile 1.677: | Zeile 1.783: | ||
Hades: Gato<br> | Hades: Gato<br> | ||
Persephone: Kula<br> | Persephone: Kula<br> | ||
A+: Ryo, K'<br> | A+: Ryo, K'<br> | ||
A Oswald<br> | A Oswald<br> | ||
A- Kim, Duck, Ralf<br> | A- Kim, Duck, Ralf<br> | ||
B+ Adelheid, Jazu, Gai, Maxima, Eiji<br> | B+ Adelheid, Jazu, Gai, Maxima, Eiji<br> | ||
B Mary, Griffon, Terry, Vanessa, Yuri, Iori, King, Ash, Kyo, Clark<br> | B Mary, Griffon, Terry, Vanessa, Yuri, Iori, King, Ash, Kyo, Clark<br> | ||
B- Benimaru, Silber, Athena, Kensou, Jenet, Elisabeth<br> | B- Benimaru, Silber, Athena, Kensou, Jenet, Elisabeth<br> | ||
C Shen, Shingo, Whip<br> | C Shen, Shingo, Whip<br> | ||
C-Duolon, Kasumi, Hayate, Ramon<br> | C-Duolon, Kasumi, Hayate, Ramon<br> | ||
D+ Momoko<br> | D+ Momoko<br> | ||
=== Lists from k-tani === | |||
'''List from 2019, [https://twitter.com/ktani0281/status/1206379151713689601 Source: Twitter]'''<br> | === Lists from k-tani === | ||
[[bild:ktani_tier_list_20191026.jpg|500px]] | '''List from 2019, [https://twitter.com/ktani0281/status/1206379151713689601 Source: Twitter]'''<br> | ||
[[bild:ktani_tier_list_20191026.jpg|500px]] | |||
'''List from 2018, [https://twitter.com/ktani0281/status/1055716570104643584 Source: Twitter]'''<br> | |||
[[bild:ktani_tier_list_20181026.jpg|1000px]] | '''List from 2018, [https://twitter.com/ktani0281/status/1055716570104643584 Source: Twitter]'''<br> | ||
[[bild:ktani_tier_list_20181026.jpg|1000px]] | |||
=== Lists from Pie (Korea) === | |||
'''February 2020, [https://twitter.com/xi_holic/status/1232209035895554050 Source]'''<br> | |||
S Kula, Gato, Oswald<br> | |||
A K', Kim, Ryo<br> | |||
B Iori, Eiji, Maxima, Kyo, Ralf, Clark, Terry, Duck, Adelheid, Juri<br> | |||
C Silber, Griffon, Ash, Mary, Gai, Vanessa, Malin, King, Jazu, Shen, Elisabeth, Benimaru, Duolon<br> | |||
D Athena, Momoko, Hayate, Whip, Kensou, Ramon, Shingo, Kasumi, Jenet | |||
=== Other current Tier Lists === | === Other current Tier Lists === | ||
'''List from Ryoji, 2021/03/31:'''<br> | '''List from Ryoji, 2021/03/31:'''<br> | ||
[[image: KOFXI tierlist ryoji 20210331.jpg]] | [[image: KOFXI tierlist ryoji 20210331.jpg]] | ||
Zeile 1.718: | Zeile 1.825: | ||
''Or in continuous battle,''<br> | ''Or in continuous battle,''<br> | ||
''The view is that the character itself will be harder to win"'' | ''The view is that the character itself will be harder to win"'' | ||
Zeile 1.725: | Zeile 1.831: | ||
'''2. Gato'''<br> | '''2. Gato'''<br> | ||
'''3. Ryo'''<br> | '''3. Ryo'''<br> | ||
Zeile 1.733: | Zeile 1.838: | ||
'''ATG's | '''ATG's 2019 Tier List'''<br> | ||
[[image: KOFXI atg tierlist 2019.png]] | [[image: KOFXI atg tierlist 2019.png]] | ||
Zeile 1.739: | Zeile 1.844: | ||
'''Ratio-List 2013:'''<br/> | '''Ratio-List 2013:'''<br/> | ||
''Note: 13 points are allowed per team. This list is | ''Note: 13 points are allowed per team. This list is outdated. Source: [http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21267498 Nicovideo]'' | ||
*'''7 points:''' Gato, Kula | *'''7 points:''' Gato, Kula | ||
*'''6 points:''' Oswald, K' | *'''6 points:''' Oswald, K' | ||
*'''5 points:''' Kim, Duck, Ryo, Yuri, Ralf, Clark, Eiji, Maxima, Adelheid | *'''5 points:''' Kim, Duck, Ryo, Yuri, Ralf, Clark, Eiji, Maxima, Adelheid | ||
*'''4 points:''' Elisabeth, Benimaru, Terry. King, Griffon, Vanessa, Mary, Malin, Kyo,Gai, | *'''4 points:''' Elisabeth, Benimaru, Terry. King, Griffon, Vanessa, Mary, Malin, Kyo,Gai, Jazu | ||
*'''3 points:''' | *'''3 points:''' Ash, Shen, Jenet, Whip, Iori, Silber | ||
*'''2 points:''' | *'''2 points:''' Duolon, Athena, Kensou, Ramon, Kasumi, Shingo | ||
*'''1 point:''' | *'''1 point:''' Momoko, Hayate | ||
'''Tougeki Magazine vol. 3 2006/06/14 (post-tougeki):'''<br/> | |||
'''God:''' Kula, Gato<br> | |||
'''Monster:''' Oswald(1up)<br/> | |||
'''King:''' Duck(2up), Kim(1up), Gai, Jenet, Eiji<br/> | |||
'''Knight:''' Ralf, Clark, Kyo, Jazu, Ryo(2up), Silber<br/> | |||
'''Soldier:''' Ash, K', Terry(1up), Vanessa, Maxima(1up)<br> | |||
'''Citizen:''' All other characters (Benimaru=1down; Shen=1down) | |||
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