Whip(KOFXI): Unterschied zwischen den Versionen

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| 2C||7/13/18* || 3+3+13 || KD || <span style="color: red;">-22</span> ||Second hit knocks down. Low profile F1-6 (96px). *=first/second/third hit, if previous hit whiffs.
| 2C||7/13/18* || 3+3+13 || KD || <span style="color: red;">-22</span> ||Second hit knocks down. Low profile F1-6 (96px). *=first/second/third hit, if previous hit whiffs.
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| 2D||11 || 4 || KD || <span style="color: blue;">+5</span> ||Low profile F3-14 & 23-25 (112px). F26+27 crouching recovery. Moves forward (disjointed hurtbox). Can beat Gato's 236236A as okizeme.
| 2D||11 || 4 || KD || <span style="color: blue;">+5</span> ||Low profile F3-14 & 23-25 (112px). F26+27 crouching recovery. Moves forward (disjointed hurtbox).
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| small A||8 || 10 || / || / ||Same hitbox as j.A.
| small A||8 || 10 || / || / ||Same hitbox as j.A.
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| j.E||18 || 9 || / || / ||Same hitbox as smalljump E. Unblockable when done meaty (tourney-banned).
| j.E||18 || 9 || / || / ||Same hitbox as smalljump E. Unblockable when done meaty (tourney-banned).
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| 41236A||7/24* || 3+4 || KD || <span style="color: red;">-55/-46</span>* ||Juggle anywhere (2nd hit). F1 whole body except head invul. F2-6 head and legs invul. F1-29 Counterhit-State. 90F total duration. *1=if first hit whiffs. *2=first/second hit.
| 41236A||7/24* || 3+4 || KD || <span style="color: red;">-55/-46</span>* ||Juggle anywhere (2nd hit). F1 whole body except head invul. F2-6 legs invul. F1-29 Counterhit-State. 90F total duration. *1=if first hit whiffs. *2=first/second hit. Same damage as 41236C (20).
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| 41236C||11/35* || 4+5 || KD || <span style="color: red;">-51/-36</span>* ||Juggle anywhere (2nd hit). F1-10 upper body invul. F1-42 Counterhit-State. 91F total duration. *=if first hit whiffs.
| 41236C||11/35* || 4+5 || KD || <span style="color: red;">-51/-36</span>* ||Juggle anywhere (2nd hit). F1-10 upper body invul. F1-42 Counterhit-State. 91F total duration. *=if first hit whiffs. Same damage as 41236A (20).
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| 63214A||27/48* || 4+2 || KD || <span style="color: red;">-2</span> ||2nd hit is overhead. Button can be held to delay attack. While held, D can be used to cancel from F17. F1-44 counterhit-state. *=first/second hit.
| 63214A||27/48* || 4+2 || KD || <span style="color: red;">-2</span> ||2nd hit is overhead. Both hits can juggle. Button can be held to delay attack. While held, D can be used to cancel from F17. F1-44 counterhit-state. *=first/second hit.
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| 63214B||23/44* || 3+4 || <span style="color: blue;">+6</span>* || <span style="color: blue;">+7</span>* ||Hits mid. Pulls the opponent in. Button can be held to delay attack. While held, D can be used to cancel from F17. F1-50 counterhit-state. *=first/second hit. *2/3=more advantage on guard than on hit.
| 63214B||23/44* || 3+4 || <span style="color: blue;">+6</span>* || <span style="color: blue;">+7</span>* ||Hits mid. Pulls the opponent in. Button can be held to delay attack. While held, D can be used to cancel from F17. F1-50 counterhit-state. *=first/second hit. *2/3=more advantage on guard than on hit.
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| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |7
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |7
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |1+2+6+3
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |1+2+6+3
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |<span style="color: red;">-15/-14/-12/-6+6</span>*
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |<span style="color: red;">-15/-14/-12/-6</span>*
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |<span style="color: red;">-16/-15/-13/-7</span*
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |<span style="color: red;">-16/-15/-13/-7</span>*
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |Special Cancel. *=Depending on which hitbox connects (one to four).
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |Special Cancel. *=Depending on which hitbox connects (one to four).
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| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |KD
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |KD
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |<span style="color: red;">-55/-46</span>*
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |<span style="color: red;">-55/-46</span>*
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |Juggle anywhere (2nd hit). F1 whole body except head invul. F2-6 head and legs invul. F1-29 Counterhit-State. 90F total duration. *=if first hit whiffs. *2=First/second hit.
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |Juggle anywhere (2nd hit). F1 whole body except head invul. F2-6 legs invul. F1-29 Counterhit-State. 90F total duration. *=if first hit whiffs. *2=First/second hit. Same damage as 41236C (20).
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| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |'''41236C'''
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |'''41236C'''
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| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |KD
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |KD
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |<span style="color: red;">-51/-36</span>*
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |<span style="color: red;">-51/-36</span>*
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |Juggle anywhere (2nd hit). F1-10 upper body invul. F1-42 Counterhit-State. 91F total duration. *=if first hit whiffs. *2=First/second hit.
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |Juggle anywhere (2nd hit). F1-10 upper body invul. F1-42 Counterhit-State. 91F total duration. *=if first hit whiffs. *2=First/second hit. Same damage as 41236A (20).
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| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |'''63214A'''
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |'''63214A'''
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| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |KD
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |KD
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |<span style="color: red;">-2</span>
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |<span style="color: red;">-2</span>
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |2nd hit is overhead. Button can be held to delay attack. While held, D can be used to cancel from F17. F1-44 counterhit-state. *=first/second hit.
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |2nd hit is overhead. Both hits can juggle. Button can be held to delay attack. While held, D can be used to cancel from F17. F1-44 counterhit-state. *=first/second hit.
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| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |'''63214B'''
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |'''63214B'''
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| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |'''5C(f,1st hit)>AB'''
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |'''5C(f,1st hit)>AB'''
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |+6
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |<span style="color: blue;">+6</span>
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |-4
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |<span style="color: red;">-4</span>
|style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |Combos into 5B(c)
|style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |Combos into 5B(c)
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| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |'''5C(f,2nd hit)>AB'''
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |'''5C(f,2nd hit)>AB'''
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |+6
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |<span style="color: blue;">+6</span>
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |+5
| style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |<span style="color: blue;">+5</span>
|style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |Combos into 5B(c)
|style="background-color:#F9F9F9;" |Combos into 5B(c)
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*Juggling with 236236P and shifting the 2nd to last hit will result in the opponent standing in the air:<br>
*Juggling with 236236P and shifting the 2nd to last hit will result in the opponent standing in the air:<br>
[[bild:kofxi_whip_236236P_bug.png]]
[[bild:kofxi_whip_236236P_bug.png]]
== Combos ==
===Basic Combos===
*5B(C)x1-2 > 2B > 41236A: BnB combo, hard knockdown and sets up okizeme.
*(5D(1)>) 63214B > 5B>5B>2B>41236A: Useful combo from 63214B.
*Throw > 421P: OTG hit. Most useful when Throwing the opponent in the corner, since you are close afterwards.
*63214A > 5B(f) whiff > 421A (OTG): unscale setup. See [https://youtu.be/K119BF4Te6g?t=2394 here], from u-rasia.
*2C > 41236A: Juggle anywhere anti-air. Needs to hit both close and relatively high to connect reliably.
*5A > 41236A: Juggle anywhere anti-air. quite situational, see it in action [https://youtu.be/u2E7_tlPH2Q?t=2044 here], from u-rasia.
===QS Combos===
*2C(1)>6Ax3>QS: basic QS setup
*QS to Whip > j.C>\/>2C(1)>...: basic combo from QS
== Strategy ==
*There is an infinite blockstring when Whip is cornered, see [https://youtu.be/mnzXYU-4jpQ?t=2214 u-rasia vs Shingo]
== Okizeme ==
*Throw > short backwalk > 2B whiff > superjump j.C: Crossup. See [https://youtu.be/pPYzRcvT078 u-rasia]
===DOWN! Okizeme===
*Corner hyperhop j.C (crossup), 2C(1)>6Ax3 > whip pull > 5B(c)>5B(c)>2B>41236P. See [https://youtu.be/u2E7_tlPH2Q?t=556 u-rasia]
==Matchups==
:Tall crouched characters cannot crouch Whip's 5A(c), which gives massive advantage. Linking a 2C afterwards serves as a frame trap. 5A(c) can be used eg. after her pull-in move on guard, see [https://youtu.be/pPYzRcvT078?t=1839 u-rasia]
Note from ATG: I asked u-rasia for whip matchups, he provided the following, based on his experience using all of those characters against Kentucky (strong Whip player).
:30:70 K' Kura
:35:65 Yuri Gato Adelheid
:40:60 Ash Shen Terry Ryo King Griffon Clark
:45:55 Oswald Benimaru Jenet  Athena Kensou Vanessa Mary Eiji Kyo Iori Jazu Silber
:50:50 Elisabeth Kim Ralf Malin Maxima Gai Hayate Duck
:55:45 Duolon Momoko Ramon  Kasumi Shingo
===Duck===
:As of Sawakoro Festival, Duck has changed from a 35:65 to a 50:50 since u-rasia and others discovered that Whip's 2D beats all of Duck's jump attacks except j.E.
:If 2D is not used to its full extent, the matchup is very difficult due to Duck's pressure.
===Vs Gato===
:Cannot crouch Whip's 5A(c)
:Due to its disjointed hurtbox, 2D can beat Gato's 236236A and make his LDM whiff when used as okizeme. Example from [https://youtu.be/rkRTqSzVtLo?t=484 u-rasia]
===Vs Kula===
:2D as Okizeme will make Ray Spin whiff, enabling a Punish with 5B(c)>2B>41236P etc, see [https://youtu.be/rkRTqSzVtLo?t=1526 u-rasia]
===Vs Ryo===
:Cannot crouch Whip's 5A(c)
===Vs Oswald===
Punish Oswald's standard Rekka Chain (>214P>214B) with 5A(f)>41236A, see [https://youtu.be/u2E7_tlPH2Q?t=2053 here], from u-rasia


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